Injecting Reality or Killing Dreams?
Posted: June 13th, 2012 | Author: Michael Goldstein | | 3 Comments »
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Okay, on to today’s story. Do you read JoanneJacobs.com? You should. She scoops up all the best edu-stories, adds in pithy commentary.
The other day Joanne linked to a story about college professors. Though it could apply to high school teachers. Question: if a kid has an “unrealistic” professional, college, or life goal, how do you respond?
It’s actually not so much the article itself, but the 40+ comments below that Joanne found interesting. Me too.
One one hand:
My son is in middle school, and in preparation for “career day,” each student in the class was asked to state their desired profession. My son indicated that he wanted to be a musician (at age 12, he plays guitar, bass, drums, trombone, and sings). His teacher insisted that he choose another profession since becoming a “musician” was an unrealistic goal.
I was astounded, not only because a teacher (not the most lucrative of professions to begin with — full disclosure, I’m also a teacher) felt that becoming a “musician” was unrealistic, but also because the teacher deemed it appropriate to limit a student’s ideas of what is possible. In a society where so many of our young people (particularly young men) are drawn to unsavory and delinquent pastimes, what could possibly be wrong with a student entertaining the idea of pursuing a life filled with music.
On the other hand:
I teach math at a community college, and most students have unrealistic career plans.
As an example, I recently had a class in which I was gathering statistics from students in order to demonstrate simple descriptive statistics, and realized that most of these people thought that they were going to make salaries in the 100K to 200K range right out of the gate with their two year degrees in things like social services and early childhood education. When questioned about their expectations, individually and privately, they pretty much all said that their parents told them that if they went to college, they would make three or four times the money that the parents had done. So they took their middle aged parents salaries, multiplied by four, and assumed that would be their starting salary. That was the total extent of their research. And if my college has career counselors, they are awfully low key, because I don’t know about them, so I can’t refer the students to someone else.
So I gave them a homework assignment to gather salary and benefit information about their expected field, find out about expected future openings, talk to people in the field about what people in that job actually do, gather information about apartment costs, how much their parents spend on groceries in order to estimate food costs, health insurance, car insurance, and so on in order to develop a future budget.
They were horrified. I had girls in my office in tears, upset parents on the phone going on about destroying dreams, and faculty in some of those fields upset with me and worried about their future enrollment if students found out how low the salaries and expected job openings were.

Have you read The Ambitious Generation yet? It is about exactly this. Although I think we’re also getting into Growing Up Absurd territory as well.
Both scenarios lack data and in the first case, it’s the teacher’s. People always make assumptions on careers based on the people they know and create narratives abou it. The music and entertainment industry in this country is booming. There are lots of ways to be involved in music without being the next Rhianna and make a great living, including being a working musician, self-publishing your work, or working for a production company in sound. The teacher’s comments are just ignorant- it’s certainly not that much more competitive to have a stable, decent job in the entertainment industry than in teaching or law in this day and age.
The second story broke my heart. It’s empowering to have real data to make decisions. Hopefully those young women will do something with it.
It’s a shame that they had never been steered to that information in the first place. Makes me feel better about my 8th graders’ career project, which piggy-backed off research they had already done in language arts. I added some requirements to what they already should have had- salary range, education requirements, etc. At least now they have some basis for their unrealistic expectations….